Oct 23, 2017


VII. B. 1. The relationship between the Church and Israel

  • The olive tree allegory, a model of the church

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OT olive tree:
Jer 11:16 (Israel compared to an olive tree)
Zech 4:3, 6b, 14 (the two olive trees)
Hos 14:1, 4-7 (Israel compared to an olive tree)

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NT olive tree:
Rom 11:4 (the two olive trees, Jews and Gentiles)
Rom 11:16-24 (Jews = natural branches; Gentiles = wild branches)
Rom 11:32 (the Jewish olive tree is the only one that remains, with the Gentiles grafted in - salvation by faith is for both)
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