From Israel In Prophecy

KeyIssues: To live in the land is conditional?

Has God really said

That the Jews right to live in the land is conditional upon their obedience?

Here are some Bible passages that provide an answer for this question:

Isaiah 48:9-11

9 "For the sake of My name I delay My wrath, And for My praise I restrain it for you, In order not to cut you off.
10 "Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.
11 "For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another.

Ezekiel 36:22-24

22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am about to act, but for My holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you went.
23 "I will vindicate the holiness of My great name which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD," declares the Lord GOD, "when I prove Myself holy among you in their sight.
24 "For I will take you from the nations, gather you from all the lands and bring you into your own land.
Our Conclusion The Lord has declared that He will bring the Jews back to the land he originally gave them, regardless of their disobedience. He will act "for His name's sake," to vindicate his name before the nations. Therefore, the Jews' right to live in this land is ultimately not dependent on conditions.

If you still don't agree, please read this.

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Mike — 15 May 2012, 13:36

, Of a truth I perceive that God is no arectesper of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and WORKETH RIGHTEOUSNESS, is eaccepted with him.”You say this means No one is more righteous or pure than anyone else but that is not what is being said. Peter is saying that God does not disciminate on a basis of nationality or race, hense the phrase but in every nation. After stating that all men are treated equal, he than lists the two requirements to be accepted of God, which are feareth him or faith, and Working Righteousness. If all were equal as sinful than there would not be the unpardonable sin given in Matt 12: 31, Mark 3: 29, and Luke 12: 10. As there is a sin that cannot be forgiven than there are those who have sinned to a greater degree than others have. It is only logical. Yes, christ is the only one that is perfectly righteous, which is why we require his atonement to gain salvation. However, to say that all are equally sinful seems illogical concidering the blasphame of the Holy Ghost.From you comments on Peter and Revelations it seems that you are saying our sins can condemn us but our good works cannot help us. This would make God unjust, thus contradicting the Bible. If our sins can condemn us, than our righteousness can help us. While none of us can be righteous enough to gain salvation, our works have to count for something. Even if it is only choosing to Believe in Christ. Our faith then becomes a good work (which is only proven through other good works as James says in chapter 2). I refer you to Matthew 25. In this chapter are the parables of the Ten Virgins, the Talents, and the Sheep and Goats. I will only speak on the talents, as the other two have the same meaning. In this parable we (verses14-30) For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord’s money. After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Here we have three servants. All of them knew their master and all waited for his return. What does it all mean? The Master = Christ The Servants = The Saints (desiples of Christ) We can tell this because each was waiting for the master. The Talents = The mission or work each desiple is to do in this life (understood by the phrase according to his several ability) So, Christ leaves, giving each man a job. Those who faithfully carry out this job, or do the work required of them, receive the blessing Well done thou good and faithful servant, enter into the rest of thy Lord. The one that does not faithfully carry out his job, does not do the work, loses what he has and is cast into outer darkness. From this we see that those who do good in their work will be blesses, while those who do not good in their work will be cast out. Whether you agree with this interpretation or not, it is still a very sound interpretation, thus proving this idea through the Bible.As to Ezekiel, yes he was given a specific task as watchmen, as he was a prophet. However, if you understand the doctrines of the church you would know that all those who hold the priesthood are given the task as watchmen in Isreal, so this verse applies. While President Monson, his counselors, and the twelve are watchmen over the entire world, we are all watchman over our own small portion. I am a watchman over my family, thus if I do not teach them correctly their sins will be on my hands. My Bishop is a watchman for our ward, thus carrying the responsible for many. The Stake President is over the stake. A missionary is called as a Temporary watchman over the air he serves in. When you understand that all those who hold the priestood are called to watch over some part of the church, the declaration that if we fail those under us will be held at our hands is perfectly sound and Biblical. Now, if it was our calling to bring the gospel to a certain person, and we fail to act in that calling, the Lord will find another way to reach that person. However, we will still be held accountable for not teaching them.

Lenny — 02 July 2009, 19:37

Question: Not argument in anyway. For the past few years I have been lulled into a little indifference about Israel. I believe in the right of return for Jews to Israel but for a while I was taking the stance, no settlements, and only a limited return because the jews have been brought back still in a disobedient state. Is there a scripture that says they will be brought back to the land in disobedience and do you think it is acceptable for settlements to continue? I feel I am in a state of flux concerning the state of Israel and with the Jews back in the land I can even forsee the modern state if Israel no longer existing due to the liberal nature of modern Judiasiam. what do you think? landh@ptd.net---thank you very much

mjr — 31 October 2008, 05:36

If you read the literal text, " 24And I have taken you out of the nations, And have gathered you out of all the lands, And I have brought you in unto your land", you will notice that it's past tense, not future tense.

mtaylor — 14 May 2008, 19:00

"final right" is more appropriate here. In fact, it is doubtful that the word "right" should be used, since there was a contingency in the Mosaic covenant of faithfulness to Adonai in order to secure the land promise. The point is Israel as the scapegoat in the wilderness of nations is a national object nation for the rest of the world, and the Lord's promise to Israel is a preview of the Judgment of nations in the Valley of Jehoshaphat when God will make it a clear point that none of the nations deserved anything (or land) because when he was judging Israel, they that did the same or worse than Israel, condemned Israel to extinction. Should we not also list Lev 26:42-44?


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